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Hispano HA-1112-M1L Buchon by Daniel-Wales-Images Hispano HA-1112-M1L Buchon by Daniel-Wales-Images
Imperial War Museum Duxford 2010.
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Enforcer57 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2015  New member Hobbyist Photographer
Really nice shot. Looks like a scene right out of the movie. I shoot prop planes at 1/250 to achieve some prop blur, as it also freezes the plane very well even on magnification up to 500mm. I always shoot jets at 1/500 though, as they are so much faster. It always freezes them well though. The Merlin was a great engine, but not for this airframe. The Buchons were even more difficult to fly and to land than the original 109s, with their spindly landing gear arrangement. These had  a high accident rate, and were flown in the movie by high time Spanish Air Force pilots for the most part. One reason you don't see many of these flying at airshows. The Merlin creates a bit more torque apparently, but I just know that the Daimler was much more suited to it. The BoB was the greatest movie ever made as far as I'm concerned; I forced my poor grandmother to sit thru two showings of it in the DeSoto theater in Rome Ga. ONe of the first VHS tapes I got was the copy of this movie. Love the photo btw, the colors and angle are great, and the prop shutter speed worked out great.
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Thornderer Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
Very nice! :)
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FooFighter7 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
I assume you heard about the 5 Buchons that were just recently pulled out of a barn in Texas and put up for sale. www.platinumfighters.com/#!ha-…
All 5 are originals that where used in the Battle of Britain movie.  There's also a two-seat Buchon for sale too! www.platinumfighters.com/#!ha-…
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014   Photographer
I did indeed here about it, hopefully they will all make it back to airworthy status and maybe even make it back into Spanish liveries (I won't hold my breath :) )

It's always good to hear about more airframes potentially available for restoration though.
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BenjiNewmanArt Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Loved seeing them fly in the movie of battle of britain.........shame they couldnt use real BF 109s
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The-WrinklyNinja Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
So very similar to the styling of the Spitfire, which I thought it was, but in the wrong livery. :?
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012   Photographer
This is quite the opposite of the Spitfire and is in fact the Spits foe the Messerschmitt BF-109. However this is slightly different because it was built post war for the Spanish Air Force. Due to lack of original German type engines it was powered by the famed Rolls Royce Merlin which I'm sure you know powered the Spitfire. They called it the Buchon, which apparently means Sea Gull. Though not actually being able to speak Spanish I don't know that for sure. The German markings are purely for airshows and it should be in Spanish colours for authenticity but there are so few original German fighters left and the Spitfire needs an opponent during these mock dogfights.
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The-WrinklyNinja Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I understand its enemy status. But on first sight, it looked so similar.

Thanks for the rest of the info. At least they fitted it with a good engine.

I used Google translator, and it didn't recognise Buchon. So I typed in Seagull in English, and the Spanish result is gaviota. :?
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012   Photographer
After a quick google I found that according to wikipedia, Buchon actually means a male dove or a pelican in Spanish. I don't know where I got Sea Gull from? I guess I some wires got crossed in my brain. :D
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The-WrinklyNinja Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
That's what wires do sometimes. :lol: I have a whole harness of 'em that are permamently crossed. :D
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davincipoppalag Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Looks great
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griffonmeister Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2012  Hobbyist
I would say you pay attention to giving the image "movement" all the time. Its one of your most notable qualities. In-particular not freezing the prop. It is also harder to achieve on the ground as the prop can be just above "idle" or being manipulated in some way.
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012   Photographer
I thank you once again for the very kind words. I always shoot propeller aircraft with a shutter speed of less than 1/320, slower if possible to allow for prop blur. Of course all aircraft are different so what works for one will not for the other. Aerobatic types are easier as their propellers are small and turn much faster yet some of the older two bladed aircraft such as this Sopwith Triplane needed even slower shutter because the blade is quite thick and does not turn nearly as fast, I used 1/160 to achieve the blur. [link]
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griffonmeister Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012  Hobbyist
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Lashington Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi Danial, I took up you very kind offer to allow me to use another of your wonderful photographs. I hope you like the outcome [link] .It was a real pleasure to work with such a beautiful picture, thank you my friend.:pc:
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011   Photographer
I liked it so much I thought I would give the piece a plug in my journal as I thought some of my watchers would like to see it. :)
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Lashington Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much for your support, it's very kind of you.:pc:
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Lashington Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi Danial, this is the photo I used, sorry about that. I have posted the picture here [link] . If you don't like the picture or for any other reason I will remove it. Once again I wish to thank you for letting me use it, very kind of you.:pc:
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Soter-1 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011
Its a shame there aren't more of the original Bf-109s around; that Merlin just messes up the lines. But this is better than nothing, and is in amazing condition.
I really shouldn't complain at all: the picture is amazing. I have no doubt that you could take a picture of a pile of dirt and it would be amazing.
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011   Photographer
I'm one of the very few people that actually preferes the Buchon over the original BF-109s. I have always personally thought the Merlin gives it a more aggresive look and sound. Don't get me wrong, I of course love the originals too, However having been lucky enough to see an original BF-109G fly before it was sadly grounded after an accident in 1997. To me it just doesn't have the same impact as the Buchon. The BF109 purrs beautifully, but the Buchon growls :)
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Yerfdog5 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
I have some old shots that my Dad took in World War 2. they are typical tourist shots in b/w of course, but he has about a dozen crashed planes and blown up tanks etc. Will poste them when I get time.
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2011   Photographer
Well I would love to see them if you do post them. It is always fascinating to see that side of the war. It is very easy to forget that it wasn't just those in the services that had to live at wartime. It must have been very frightning to see dogfights above and to experience the bombing raids and the crash sites. It is something we don't think about so much now. All the current conflicts seem so far removed from reality as all the fighting is so far away. But to be living around it must have been very sobering.
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Yerfdog5 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Not sure I made it clear, but the tank and aircraft photos (that I will post as soon as Iget some really free time) were all taken in the middle east (North Africa I guess), Dad is no longer around (though he is in my thoughts) so I cannot clarify it further.
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2011   Photographer
Oh sorry for the mistake, I thought you meant from aircraft that had been shot down during the Battle of Britain or something like that. I assume he was a soldier or in the military in some capacity then? or was he there for another reason? either way I'm sure those photographs are fascinating viewing.
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Yerfdog5 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
He never really spoke about going off to the war, He was always fooling around with the Sand Dance and other such antics, which I guess he and his fellow soldiers cooked this up whilst on deployment
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Blackhedgehog13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2010
didn't they use these in the movie Battl of Britain?
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2010   Photographer
They certainly did, in fact this very machine was one of the 17 Buchons used for filming it.
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Blackhedgehog13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2010
I could have sworn this looked familar, also didn't they use spainish made Henkials 111's
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Photobeast Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2010
Its a shame that theres not alot of the origonal engined craft around.

Great shot. Good shutter speed for the prop blur. Its something alot of new people don't understand helps the image seem alive
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010   Photographer
Thanks very much, it is nice to see things like the shutter speeds analysed. I think it isn't only the photographer that often neglects these things, but also those that view the images too. It is easy to think that it is just a good picture of an aircraft. What isn't as easy to show in an image is how much thought each image takes to get right, and that it isn't just point a camera in the direction of the aircraft and press the shutter. I am really happy that is something you pick up on. Not that I blame people that don't notice things like that, we are not all photographers and we can't expect those to care much about that side of an image. However it is just nice that someone has appreciated that effort.

Yes it is a shame that there are currently only a handful of these machines equipped with db engines that still fly. I guess that is just one of the unfortunate concequences of loosing a war and I guess the preservation of machines was not thought about back then, especially the enemy's machines. Also the quality of metals in Germany were known to be not so great towards the end of the war so I am sure that did it's bit to harm preservation too. The Spanish machines are still interesting though and I am happy that there are at least a few bf-109 types still flying, even if most are post war Merlin powered machine.
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Photobeast Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010
Yeah, I heard they built the planes to last maybe 7 sorties towards the end. After all, that would be shot down before then anyways.

If your ever in So Cal, you should check out the Planes of Fame Museum, and their Nakajima Sakae powered Zero. (Not to mention they are housing a BF-109 that was pulled from a Russian lake till it goes in for rebuilding)
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