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Maurice Hammonds North American P-51D Mustang "Janie" at North Weald for the Gathering of Warbirds and Veterans.
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Midway2009 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great details. :jawdrop:
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plumpener Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013   Photographer
This is Awesome! I can detail my Model more off this!
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davincipoppalag Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
hell of a nine yards too
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pearwood Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
7.62 rounds? The clips look about the same as what we fed through M60 machine guns.
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kanyiko Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
12.7 rounds. Except for the P-51-1-NA version (British Mustang Mk.IA), which was equiped with 4 20-mm cannons and of which just 150 were built (55 to USAAF, 93 to RAF, 2 retained by North American for engine trials) , all P-51 variants were armed with 0.5 in (12.7-mm) Browning M2 guns. The A-36 ground attack version was armed with 6 guns, 4 in the wings and two in the nose; the P-51A/B/C variants were armed with 4 wing-mounted guns; and the P-51D/H/K variants with 6 wing-mounted guns.
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pearwood Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks. Heavy duty armaments.
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kanyiko Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heavy enough to literally cut up a 109 or 190 - as actually happened in a great number of cases!
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Onion88 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Mmm, although bear in mind that the 4x20mm and 2x13mm of a FW190 was an even mores impressive armament, and a single 30mm Minengescho▀ from a Me109 would split a P51 in half. .50 cal was not a particularly heavy weapon for a warbird.
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Anzac-A1 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016
But the 30mm and 20mm aren't so great for dogfighting, because those rounds suffer from sever drop-off at a distance, especially in a turn. In the end, .50 cal was probably the best, because it was a heavy enough round to bring down most targets, yet had limited drop-off, so it was still suitable for dogfighting. Also, the German 30mm cannon had such a low muzzle velocity that you needed to be within 200 yards to be sure of a hit.
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Onion88 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016
Fair points.  This sort of discussion - common on the internet! - can go in circles forever.  I'll just quickly say I don't quite buy the .50 as the "best" for a number of reasons.

The Germans could easily have used a similar weapon to the .50 (12.7mm), using either the 13 mm MG 131 or the 15 mm MG 151, if they had wanted to.  That they didn't suggests they were not convinced of non-cannon armaments.  The USSR and UK also went in heavily for cannon armament.  The UK could easily have had access to US-provided .50s if they'd wanted them.  Finally, the fact that late war and post-war US fighters like the F8F Bearcat and late mark F4s were cannon-armed suggests to me that the USAAF pretty much came to the same conclusion as the Luftwaffe, RAF and VVS.
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Anzac-A1 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016
You also have to remember that Luftwaffe's main job post-1942 was stopping incoming bomber raids, so they prioritized heavy cannons. As a result, they suffered against fighters, against which heavy cannons are less effective.
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kanyiko Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know - but at the time when the 0.5 armament was introduced, it was an improvement over the usual 0.3s, or the 0.303s used by the British. It actually caused the USAF a lot of problems later on, when they retained their 6-gun armament for future requirements - such as the F-80, F-82, F-84, F-86 and F-94. If they had upgunned their types to cannons, such as the British did (later marks Spitfire, as well as the Spiteful, Typhoon, Tempest, Hornet and Fury/Sea Fury props, and the Vampire and Meteor jets) they might have had an even better kill score over Korea. As it was, the 0.5s turned out to be... not good enough against types such as the MiG-15, which could take quite an amount of damage...

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Then again, barely a decade later the USAF wanted to be too futuristic, dropping all gun/cannon armament in favour of FFAR unguided rockets, and AIM-2/AIM-4/AIM-7 guided missiles, which turned out to be an equally bad decision over Vietnam, as retaining gun-calibre armament had over Korea...
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noneofurbussiness Featured By Owner May 4, 2012
interesting detail shot
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner May 7, 2012   Photographer
Thank you very much! Pleased you like it! :)
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noneofurbussiness Featured By Owner May 7, 2012
welcome
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Skoshi8 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Looks factory fresh.
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focallength Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2010
Great shot. I've seen photos of the gun bays before. Interesting stuff.
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slowdog294 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2010
Fascinating.
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disasterdesigner Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2010   Photographer
Now this is just amazing! Never had a chance to see the whole system :)
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Daniel-Wales-Images Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2010   Photographer
Maurice Hammond, the owner of this Mustang and the other Mustang called "Marinell" was nice enough to let us get in really close to his stunning machines. He opened up the gun ports on both Mustangs to let us get some interesting photogrsphs. So if the credit goes to anyone it's him and his willingness to share his pride and joy :D
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